shraga
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| 27 Jul 2009 8:51 AM |
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I started my search for shared Windows hosting here at this forum and I see that many are using ISPs that have special DNN service, but they have major limitations on number of DNN instances allowed, space, databases, access, # of domains etc. Other use ISPs that charge a lot more for Windows plans than Linux ones.
I am using Linux ISPs for many years, now I'm using mainly Bluehost. They have practically unlimited everything for a few bucks a month and I have no problems with them. I could hardly find such deals in Windows arena, but after few hours of searching I found two,
http://www.mochahost.com
http://www.arvixe.com
I have never hosted DNN site on ISP, (still in localhost mode,) but why do I need a specialized and very expensive DNN ISP and pay so much more for significantly inferior deals? Am I missing anything?
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Joseph Craig
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| 27 Jul 2009 9:50 PM |
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All that you need is IIS and MSSQL. But, if you go with a host who knows about DotNetNuke, you might get some help when you need it, or you might get a system configured more appropriately for DotNetNuke.
And ... it doesn't have to cost an arm and a leg. I've worked with sites hosted at seekdotnet, myhosting.com, iHostNetworks.com, and some others. PowerDNN and 3Essentials have reasonable priced shared hosting.
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shraga
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| 27 Jul 2009 11:49 PM |
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thanks, Joe, I see your points, but still the hosting products that all of the hosts you mentioned are non-comparable to, for example, Mochahost.com. the later has a shared plan called Mocha for less than $10 / month with practically unlimited everything, including disk space, traffic, domains, databases etc. it allows MsSQL remote management and has other incentives. I see many Windows hosts, like the ones you mentioned, that give you a handful GB disk space, few 100s of GB transfer a couple of databases, they even limit your email accounts. powerdnn, which i guess is probably a reseller that specializes in DNN installations, has a $20 plan that allows one DNN installation, 1 database, 1 GB disk space!!! with "limited support" and the price explodes with 2 or 5 DNN installation. i'd guess you would call it a DNN service more than hosting service. maybe their support is so superior that they worth it, but i personally would think that it's better for me to get much superior hosting value and use forums and your (DnnCreative) great knowledge, experience and friendliness for a subscription of $80 a year.
When I see the discrepancy, i would have though that something wrong with a plan like mochahost, but I know that there are lots of similar and even better values in the Linux hosting - so it is possible.
I'd need two, possibly three DNN installation this year and I have a handful of non-DNN sites that are currently on Linux servers. I now consider getting a Windows reseller hosting plan, which would give me less resources, but more control over the sites and their maintenance. i could get a small Windows reseller plan for around $20 /month.
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Joseph Craig
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| 28 Jul 2009 8:34 AM |
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| Yes, the MochaHost offerings look good. If you use them, do let us know how it goes. |
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shraga
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| 28 Jul 2009 8:48 AM |
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Thanks. will do.
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Greg Pulskamp
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| 01 Aug 2009 1:01 AM |
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| I just moved my 9 DNN websites to Dnn4less.com, try them. |
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Michael
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| 01 Aug 2009 5:42 PM |
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Yes you are...
What you're going to find is that most of those companies that offer cheap unlimited hosting just aren't set up to handle DNN. If they do not setup their side correctly they will be shutting you down for hogging CPU cycles and database traffic. (You may also find you are limited on the amount of mail traffic each day as well as other limitations...there is so much more involved with DNN than just space and bandwidth)
I love DNN but I've been where you are at and it was just too frustrating. Save yourself the headaches and hire a company that knows DNN if you plan on running it on a shared hosting plan. |
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Greg Pulskamp
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| 01 Aug 2009 6:52 PM |
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I understand where you are coming from, but I don't think that, $14.99 a month is the cheap DNN hosting, I used to have Dedicated Server with another provider, But never been satisfied with the performance of the server. Now I have shared hosting with dnn4less, and they have proved on me that, they are professional.
Anyway if I have any problem with them, I will post here as well, but for now I am happy and will continue with dnn4less. (THIS IS MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCE).
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shraga
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| 02 Aug 2009 1:12 PM |
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I think Michael reference to cheep hosting is to my suggestion of mochahost, indeed $14.99 for 2GB Disk space and 1 database, or $90 a month for 10GB disk and 5 database is not the cheep. am not sure what else they give you other than the initial setup.
I actually, mainly agree with Michael that the expertise and quality of the service is a very important, and I don't have enough dnn experience to know its sensitive aspects. But, after using Linux ISPs for years, it's difficult to pay so much more for windows, though i'll may have to do that.
My first three days experience at mochahost were not very promising. I got a small reseller shared hosting account and they had several technical problems, mostly stemming from giving me, and setting up DNS entries for the wrong static IPs. Then the email did not work, until finally yesterday everything seems to be running, except that some places still resolve to the wrong IPs.. the only thing that kept my patience in check was that they generally respond pretty quickly to any email.
I also was surprised to hear from them that they do not guarantee to have the data backed up or recoverable. I always thought that all ISPs promise data recovery. or maybe i'm wrong and they do not - i've never experienced data lost yet.
mochahost claims that they can host dnn and even offer it as an installable tool. If i decide to stay with them and put DNN there, I'll let you know. I'll move one more static account in and see.
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Greg Pulskamp
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| 02 Aug 2009 3:13 PM |
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I think this proves everything. Compare both reports, first one is from dnn4less and second is from
Other hosting provider. Please note that, now I am on Shared Hosting Plan, while other report generated
when I was on DEDIDCATED SERVER.
Performance and Support always matter to me. And after receiving this report today, I am proud on my
decision.
I used to get complains from my clients that, my site works very slow, but since i moved to
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Lee Sykes
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| 05 Aug 2009 4:00 AM |
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I also was surprised to hear from them that they do not guarantee to have the data backed up or recoverable. I always thought that all ISPs promise data recovery. or maybe i'm wrong and they do not - i've never experienced data lost yet.
Be careful, one of my sites that I first built in DotNetNuke (a few years ago now!) was burned by a hosting provider with no backup, I lost everything and that site took me literally a year to build.
I now have a schedule setup for my DotNetNuke sites where it automatically backs up the website every day and then FTPs the backup to a separate server with a different hosting provider (this is a cheap php server just used for storing data), this means that I am no longer reliant on the DNN hosting provider creating backups.
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shraga
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| 05 Sep 2009 10:06 AM |
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Update on my ISP experience with Mochahost.com.... not good
I gave up on Mochahost.com. As I reported, I tried to set up a reseller account, it was plagued with bugs, but I felt that their support was trying hard. After using it for a while, the problems did not stop and the support became sluggish. But the one thing that frustrated me the most was the slowness of their control panel (plesk). Often, the response time is over 30 seconds. Luckily I'm still using my old ISP for most of my stuff. I'll post a report on my next ISP venture if it will be interesting...
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